Sir Paul and his meat-free mania

by Tasha on Sunday, November 29, 2009, 4:24 pm · 23 comments

Former Beatle wants people to abstain from eating meat one day per week to reduce their carbon footprint. I guess he didn’t hear the news today, oh boy.

A vegetarian diet didn’t do your wife a whole lot of good, did it? I mean the first one, not the one-legged gold-digger minus the pre-nup.

UPDATE: Apparently some didn’t get that I found Sir Paul’s preachiness (no meat) and stupidity (carbon footprint) annoying — hence, the reason for this post. I don’t care what anyone wants to eat. I don’t preach to others about their diet; I expect the same consideration in return. If I want someone’s opinion on dietary matters, I will ask. Otherwise, mind your own damn business.

And in that spirit, here’s a little clip that relates somewhat to the topic. No need to watch the whole thing (it’s not that great a movie) — the amusing part is all within the first minute:

So, um, these carrots…
Have been murdered, yes…

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{ 23 comments }

1 Bill Elder December 1, 2009 at 12:18 pm

“The body requires 20 essential amino acids and all but 8 are made by the body – those other 8 are readily available in a vegetarian diet.”

Again, complete bullshit. You never read that in any credible nutritional data. Animal based long chain proteins are needed for cell repop (repair) and proper growth patterns. Just like the rest of your suppositions about animal husbandry, your argument is purely lifestyle-biased supposition.You’re genetically an omnivore and at the top of the food chain, abandon this if you wish, but denial is just so much puerile ideological posing.

BTW: Note that no one is forcing a meat diet on you – do what you will. However my experience with dogmatic vegans is that my civility of self determination is not reciprocated. There is a concerted effort by control freaks in this political vegan clique to establish their anti-meat junk science as ‘medical fact’ to force health authorities to dictate vegan dietary orhodoxies to the rest of us.

If you’re a vegan by lifestyle choice fine, go nuke your immune system (like Linda McCartney) with my blessing it’s your body and your decision , but when you spew this “meat is murder’ political bullshit at me, just grab your ankles.

2 don muntean December 2, 2009 at 4:09 am

I’m not a vegan and you’re wrong about the animal protein as for the other points – well all the hormones and antibiotics and the creepy factory farming practices are NOT natural and they are NOT healthy. You can fool yourself if you like but – you’re literally eating poison and paying to do it too!

3 Bill Elder November 30, 2009 at 9:31 pm

“Look at it this way. Red meat is bad for your health.”

Bullshit!

Starving or nuking your immune system by depriving it of primary amino acids like creatin and cyto protiens is absolutely bad for your health. Animal based protiens are completeproteins with all the aminos we cannot manufacture and our metabolism was meant to take multi source amino intake…at the least eggs and cheese are needed to subsidize carb based aminos.

Sorry to sound so brusk but I was on a vegan kick and it was the most ailment prone part of my life. If you choose veganism for ideological or political reasons say so – but the world doesn’t need any more with quack science pushing errants social agendas.

If you were biologically and genetically predisposed to be a vegan instead of an omnivore you would not come with a set of incisors but a grinding palate like a sheep.

A proper omnivorous diet includes a serving of meat at least twice a week.

4 MooseandSquirrel November 30, 2009 at 10:06 pm

Thanks for replying to her, Bill. I did put a link earlier in the comments about complete protein, but I guess she couldn’t be bothered following it.

Actually, I remember reading a book by a nutritionist who related how she’d gone on a vegan kick in college. Her health deteriorated to such an extent that she lost a lot of weight and her hair was falling out.

5 don muntean December 1, 2009 at 12:26 am

Here come the skewed facts now!

“creatin and cyto protiens”

These are not as essential as you claim – they can be had from vegetable and dairy sources.

The body requires 20 essential amino acids and all but 8 are made by the body – those other 8 are readily available in a vegetarian diet.

Don’t make it sound like one needs meat to be healthy because that’s not true…the real question ought to be how much antibiotics and growth hormones are you willing to ingest?

How much disease are you willing to ingest? Did you know that most chicken cut up in packages is from whole birds that had tumors or other ‘blemishes’ – ever hear about the pus sucking guns they use in poultry plants?

Meat is unhealthy enough without all that…

6 MooseandSquirrel December 1, 2009 at 8:12 am

And I heard that AGW is partially cooking the meat right on the bones of the live animals — oh, the horror!

7 CK November 30, 2009 at 7:59 pm

Don’t care about the planet?
Look at it this way. Red meat is bad for your health. Especially in men over 50.
I have taken my husband and other family members off red meat and their cholesterol numbers are back to normal. The cardiac patient is also doing much better.

I grew up with stomach trouble until I stopped eating red meat in my 20s and I don’t have stomach trouble anymore.

What happened to Linda McCartney was a freak of nature, much the same way a non-smoker gets lung cancer. Exception rather than the rule.

8 Bill Elder November 30, 2009 at 2:35 pm

M&S said:
“Sir Paul’s judgment in a lot of areas leaves a lot to be desired, so being lectured by someone this stupid on how I should live my life doesn’t sit well with me.”

Yup! And apparently he’s been at this pious sermonizing for some time, After Frank Zappa his first dealings with him he said Sir Paul was “a preachy little [British] establishment twerp”. I gues Zappa was not the stoned out hippy McCartny was expecting when he ripped him off for a concept album. Frank created the title and the cover art (a satire of Sgt Peppers) of his “we’re only in it for the money” album as a direct cynical swipe at McCartney with his arrogance and lust for Brit peerage.

http://adale.org/GIFs/wereonlyinit.gif

I have nothing against Sir Paul but Zappa was on the money, he always has been a self important pretentious little putz, not surprising he would be arrogant enough to presume to tell us to seek austere lifestyles while he lives a privileged peerage existence.

He ought to write more songs about being so incredibly lucky to have such a decadent life from so little effort – but I suspect Sir Paul has little empathy with people who have to work hard at crappy jobs just to be able to afford a hamburger.

9 Honey Pot November 30, 2009 at 8:32 am

idiots. If we don’t eat the animals, they will eat all the fauna and flora, the glowtardians are always weeping over. Just the fact on how the glowtardians go gooh -gah over celebrities ,is enough to remind thinking people how truly gullible they are. We have the old gaia cult being revisited, by weak people, in search of having someone they feel is smarter then them telling them how to live. Stupid weak people always need some stupid thing to believe in to try and justify their existence. Don’t even start with your argument don mutant. You know, and I know. it is going to go the way of control of world population, and that will only bring out the the true agenda of the glowtardian movement.

10 MooseandSquirrel November 30, 2009 at 12:20 pm

Actually, I always try to make vegetables (and fruit) the major part of my diet, which isn’t difficult because I love vegetables. But nothing replaces animal protein (beef/poultry/fish/eggs) for its ability to provide a lasting fuel for the body (complete protein).

11 don muntean December 2, 2009 at 4:04 am

Your link makes my case – you can get all required nutrients from plant sources [a little dairy and a few eggs now and then are ok too] – your link notes “methionine” as being found in meat only – yet high levels of methionine can be found in sesame seeds brazil nuts and even some other plant seeds [as well as dairy and eggs].

12 don muntean November 30, 2009 at 2:22 pm

eat what you want think what you want about it but the fact is the whole meat business is barbaric…

13 Angus F. November 30, 2009 at 12:54 am

Pretty big of you to attack a man by way of his dead wife. If you’ve got a problem with his politics/diet, then fine, go after that; casting snide remarks at Linda McCartney says more about you than Paul…

14 MooseandSquirrel November 30, 2009 at 7:27 am

Hmmm…I was a lot more snide in my remarks about his choice for a second wife, but you didn’t say anything about that.

Sir Paul’s judgment in a lot of areas leaves a lot to be desired, so being lectured by someone this stupid on how I should live my life doesn’t sit well with me. I’m sick to death of celebrities using their status as a pulpit to preach the cult of AGW (and other cult-de-jour nonsense).

15 Bill Elder November 29, 2009 at 11:30 pm

That reminds me I’ll have to send Sir Paul )AKA the old fool on the hill) a fresh seal flipper pie for Xmas ;-)

BTW: people who think there ‘is a down side” to adequate food production hasn’t missed a meal due to shortages before.

16 MooseandSquirrel November 30, 2009 at 7:29 am

You can add my name to the card for Sir Paul. ;)

17 Chris November 29, 2009 at 9:03 pm

I’m a catholic and I already do this every Friday… I was kind of hoping the sea levels would rise so that there would be more fish.

18 MooseandSquirrel November 29, 2009 at 9:55 pm

Heh — that’s good. I love fish too. One of my hubby’s favourite meals is grilled salmon — he says it tastes better than steak.

19 don muntean November 29, 2009 at 7:40 pm

Your blog entry is ignorant.

While global warming is a questionable issue – there are many other factors to be considered. The environmental pollution from the meat industry is a real and provable downside to the meat industry.

There are factors that include pandemics created by the use of antibiotics in feed animals…

There are factors that include the detriment of health from a flesh centered diet.

You mention his wife and that being vegetarian didn’t save her from cancer – well that is certainly a fact but the way you spin it is pure ignorance…there are other ways to get cancer.

Modern factory farming with massive feedlots and massive poultry operations have killed the family farm and is now killing the rest of us.

20 MooseandSquirrel November 29, 2009 at 8:06 pm

Anthropogenic global warming questionable??? No, it’s not just questionable, it’s a crock of shit.

My blog post was snarky and that was intentional. I’m tired of being preached to by a bunch of AGW spewing holier-than-thou self-satisfied filthy rich idiots, telling me how I should be living my life.

I am not going to stop eating meat because some bloody self-important jet-setting celebrity tells me I should.

21 Honey Pot November 30, 2009 at 11:40 pm

Don mutant, stop weeping in your granola.Just another control freak ban by the glowtards, who are ban crazy. We stop eating animals what do you suggest we do with them? You want to see total anarchy, you fuck around with the carnivores food stuff. We feed them animals, so they don’t eat you weak paste faced vegetarian types.I know you see yourself equal to the animals, and guess what, so does the Jeffry Dalhmer’,s who we can keep in check by feeding them lesser animals. Once in awhile a cannibal or two, can’t contain themselves and gets through, but for the most part, a big prime rib steak will keep their inner animal subdued.

22 Tripper523 November 29, 2009 at 7:17 pm

Anyone who engages in extreme reactionary measures to offset what appears to be a detrimental trend is asking for trouble. Words like “balance” and “moderation” are applicable at all levels – global, nation, province, region, family, individual. It starts with “us” and it all matters. We have the personal and moral responsibility to maintain and manage our environment as well as we can. But in so doing, we must also progress and sustain ourselves productively in a world conducive to the best for everyone. Canada will remain a leader in this, and will conduct itself with integrity domestically and abroad. Our economic recovery will not be sidetracked by the witch-hunters of Global Warming’s dogmatic movement. PM Stephen Harper and anyone with an ounce of common sense (carbon-based or otherwise) will not be so naive in the days ahead.

23 Rob C November 29, 2009 at 7:06 pm

I have always wondered why a bunch of money and celebrity status makes these a$$holes instant experts on anything and worth listening to.

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